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		<title>By: Take the Elhaz Ablaze Traditional Food Challenge! &#171; Elhaz Ablaze</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Take the Elhaz Ablaze Traditional Food Challenge! &#171; Elhaz Ablaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Healthy Chaos Heathen! I have several goals for this year, but one is to make good on my Substitute Living rant from last year. I have this vision of Heathenry as being a movement which incorporates [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Virginia</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golden Arches = McDonalds

I am not saying that McDonalds is a recognisable image of Australia...I was being narky..however, to leave some information on McDonalds might make clear my remark which was satirical in nature.

My flatmate&#039;s 7 year old doesnt know the words to Walzing Matilda, but can sing the Mcdonalds song and knows the current ad by heart.

&#039;In 1971 McDonald’s Australia opened its first restaurant at Yagoona in Sydney. Today there are over 760 McDonald’s restaurants across Australia serving approximately 1.45 million customers daily.&#039;

Now to the fun bit!!!!

&#039;Our success is built on a foundation of personal and professional integrity. Hundreds of millions of people around the world trust the McDonald’s brand and we earn that trust every day by serving quality food that is safe to eat, respecting our customers and employees, and delivering outstanding quality, service, cleanliness and value (QSC&amp;V).

We are a franchise business with more than two thirds of all restaurants owned and operated by small business men and women and we employ 75,000 people across Australia.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golden Arches = McDonalds</p>
<p>I am not saying that McDonalds is a recognisable image of Australia&#8230;I was being narky..however, to leave some information on McDonalds might make clear my remark which was satirical in nature.</p>
<p>My flatmate&#8217;s 7 year old doesnt know the words to Walzing Matilda, but can sing the Mcdonalds song and knows the current ad by heart.</p>
<p>&#8216;In 1971 McDonald’s Australia opened its first restaurant at Yagoona in Sydney. Today there are over 760 McDonald’s restaurants across Australia serving approximately 1.45 million customers daily.&#8217;</p>
<p>Now to the fun bit!!!!</p>
<p>&#8216;Our success is built on a foundation of personal and professional integrity. Hundreds of millions of people around the world trust the McDonald’s brand and we earn that trust every day by serving quality food that is safe to eat, respecting our customers and employees, and delivering outstanding quality, service, cleanliness and value (QSC&amp;V).</p>
<p>We are a franchise business with more than two thirds of all restaurants owned and operated by small business men and women and we employ 75,000 people across Australia.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Halom</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Halom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it is such an important subject.
Food has so much influence over us. It affects our moods, health and well- everything really.

I was vegeterian most of my life, and at the age of twenty I started eating meat. Now I&#039;m very sensitive to emotional energy, and after eating meat for the first few times, I felt as if I was a caged animal with no will to live.

And thats what people build themselves on. But hey!
Its good for the goverement which wants lifeless drones with no will power as its citizens.

And not to mention sugar crazed children...

Brrr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is such an important subject.<br />
Food has so much influence over us. It affects our moods, health and well- everything really.</p>
<p>I was vegeterian most of my life, and at the age of twenty I started eating meat. Now I&#8217;m very sensitive to emotional energy, and after eating meat for the first few times, I felt as if I was a caged animal with no will to live.</p>
<p>And thats what people build themselves on. But hey!<br />
Its good for the goverement which wants lifeless drones with no will power as its citizens.</p>
<p>And not to mention sugar crazed children&#8230;</p>
<p>Brrr</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I had no idea that this subject would provoke so many comments. Thank you all; its great to see I&#039;m not a lone voice in the wilderness.

As I write I confess I am eating chocolate given to me slightly in advance of my birthday. I hate chocolate. Of the classic &#039;lifestyle&#039; addictions, I managed to quit cigarettes (one of the hardest achievements of my life, quite frankly); never had trouble with alcochol; and can take or leave coffee easily.

But chocolate? Damn, the stuff is evil. If I&#039;m not around it I wont be tempted... but if people put it in my path then I turn into a ravening beast.

Hey! Maybe curing myself of this crappy problem could be my next little rune-magic-for-self-improvement project!

When I was a kid I had a nasty weight problem and I still have to be careful (even though people like pointing out that I&#039;m thin now). I reckon if I lived in a properly DIY, organic lifestyle I wouldn&#039;t have to struggle with this at all, though.

I guess that is the brilliant apothesosis of industrialised food - in modern Western culture you can be obese AND malnourished at the same time. I think that&#039;s a pretty amazing achievement. So much for the inevitable march of progress...

H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I had no idea that this subject would provoke so many comments. Thank you all; its great to see I&#8217;m not a lone voice in the wilderness.</p>
<p>As I write I confess I am eating chocolate given to me slightly in advance of my birthday. I hate chocolate. Of the classic &#8216;lifestyle&#8217; addictions, I managed to quit cigarettes (one of the hardest achievements of my life, quite frankly); never had trouble with alcochol; and can take or leave coffee easily.</p>
<p>But chocolate? Damn, the stuff is evil. If I&#8217;m not around it I wont be tempted&#8230; but if people put it in my path then I turn into a ravening beast.</p>
<p>Hey! Maybe curing myself of this crappy problem could be my next little rune-magic-for-self-improvement project!</p>
<p>When I was a kid I had a nasty weight problem and I still have to be careful (even though people like pointing out that I&#8217;m thin now). I reckon if I lived in a properly DIY, organic lifestyle I wouldn&#8217;t have to struggle with this at all, though.</p>
<p>I guess that is the brilliant apothesosis of industrialised food &#8211; in modern Western culture you can be obese AND malnourished at the same time. I think that&#8217;s a pretty amazing achievement. So much for the inevitable march of progress&#8230;</p>
<p>H</p>
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		<title>By: Svartesól</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Svartesól</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is excellent, as always.

I am overweight although I am 120 lbs lighter than I was 5 years ago. I will never be thin, but I do believe &quot;crap in, crap out&quot; is a pretty good rule of thumb. Gardening is a very Vanic thing (and something I should talk about more on my blog, yes) and is particularly useful now in the light of bad economy raising food prices, plus if agribiz didn&#039;t already have serious problems now we&#039;ve got &quot;Frankenfood&quot; (genetically modified food) to worry about.

If you like raw milk, try goat&#039;s milk. OM NOM NOM.

-Siggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is excellent, as always.</p>
<p>I am overweight although I am 120 lbs lighter than I was 5 years ago. I will never be thin, but I do believe &#8220;crap in, crap out&#8221; is a pretty good rule of thumb. Gardening is a very Vanic thing (and something I should talk about more on my blog, yes) and is particularly useful now in the light of bad economy raising food prices, plus if agribiz didn&#8217;t already have serious problems now we&#8217;ve got &#8220;Frankenfood&#8221; (genetically modified food) to worry about.</p>
<p>If you like raw milk, try goat&#8217;s milk. OM NOM NOM.</p>
<p>-Siggy</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing!

I try really hard to convince fitness people of the logic of this approach all the time, and all I get are arguments. Henry presents the same philosophy to a bunch of Heathens and we get resounding agreement right off the bat. I wonder what that says about the intuitive intelligence of Heathens / Neo-Pagans compared to Californian gym-bunnies?

P.S. Golden Arches = MacDonald’s, but I’m not sure why that would be considered a recognizable image of Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing!</p>
<p>I try really hard to convince fitness people of the logic of this approach all the time, and all I get are arguments. Henry presents the same philosophy to a bunch of Heathens and we get resounding agreement right off the bat. I wonder what that says about the intuitive intelligence of Heathens / Neo-Pagans compared to Californian gym-bunnies?</p>
<p>P.S. Golden Arches = MacDonald’s, but I’m not sure why that would be considered a recognizable image of Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Halom</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Halom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you said there are many examples similar to margarine. One of the ones I find most disturbing is the case of &#039;Analog Cheese&#039;.
When I first encountered the refrence to this product as Analog, I thought it to be a mockery by organic lovers like me. Turns out its actually the real name of the product...

Here is a definition by some company who actually makes this stuff-

&quot;Analog cheese is the broader category of substitute, imitation, alternative or processed cheese products made with dairy or non dairy proteins and alternative oils or dairy fat in place of milk solids.&quot;

How shameless can they be? :-)

They continue to say that

&quot;Examples are blends of natural cheese, analog cheese, zero cholesterol, low sodium, increased or decreased protein and lactose free. We can also alter melt points, shred ability, taste and color.

Another key advantage is reducing cost and giving price stability. Improved shelf life, chew, stretch and body can also be built into the product. To date we have over 200 operating formulas that have been designed to meet our customer&#039;s needs.&quot;

Thier motto is &quot;We save dollars and solve problems. What can we do for you?&quot;

Oh the chills it gives me!

Anyway, my parents prefer to eat that stuff instead of more traditional actaully cheese- cheese(*sigh* goat cheese...).
They say its less fatening and has less cholesterol. No matter what I say, I cant get them to eat Real cheese, which may be fat, but atleast has some nutrition in it.

Can someone explain me about the &#039;Golden Arches&#039; thingie from Virginia&#039;s reply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you said there are many examples similar to margarine. One of the ones I find most disturbing is the case of &#8216;Analog Cheese&#8217;.<br />
When I first encountered the refrence to this product as Analog, I thought it to be a mockery by organic lovers like me. Turns out its actually the real name of the product&#8230;</p>
<p>Here is a definition by some company who actually makes this stuff-</p>
<p>&#8220;Analog cheese is the broader category of substitute, imitation, alternative or processed cheese products made with dairy or non dairy proteins and alternative oils or dairy fat in place of milk solids.&#8221;</p>
<p>How shameless can they be? :-)</p>
<p>They continue to say that</p>
<p>&#8220;Examples are blends of natural cheese, analog cheese, zero cholesterol, low sodium, increased or decreased protein and lactose free. We can also alter melt points, shred ability, taste and color.</p>
<p>Another key advantage is reducing cost and giving price stability. Improved shelf life, chew, stretch and body can also be built into the product. To date we have over 200 operating formulas that have been designed to meet our customer&#8217;s needs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thier motto is &#8220;We save dollars and solve problems. What can we do for you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh the chills it gives me!</p>
<p>Anyway, my parents prefer to eat that stuff instead of more traditional actaully cheese- cheese(*sigh* goat cheese&#8230;).<br />
They say its less fatening and has less cholesterol. No matter what I say, I cant get them to eat Real cheese, which may be fat, but atleast has some nutrition in it.</p>
<p>Can someone explain me about the &#8216;Golden Arches&#8217; thingie from Virginia&#8217;s reply?</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/04/substitute-living/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my first opportunity to comment here on Elha Ablaze, and I was interested to read your perspective on the food industry in Australia. It cannot be denied, we as a nation are overweight and ill informed, and yet the sun tanned, fit, healthy (?) surfer image still remains a recognisable image of Australia for the rest of the world. (Next to the Golden Arches - I bet I dont even need to explain that one). I found your comment on the &#039;soy&#039; industry particularly enthralling mainly because I have worked in a coffee shop and cannot help but laugh as lean, nutrionless rich bastards ordered their &#039;soy latte&#039; and read articles in Cosmopolitan magazine or some such rubbish with actual titles such as &#039;50 reasons to drink soy&#039; - most of them advocating how COOL it is to drink soy as opposed to actually giving any concrete facts about the substance. The other issue that surrounds the growing of your own foods is housing, and city dwellers in tiny, cramped &#039;studio apartments&#039; (another name for shoebox) will agree. I would like to mention that there is no excuse for at least growing your own herbs, and then seeking out organic produce. My parents live in Tasmania and have their own vegetable patches. Their neighbours do the same, and any extras unable to be eaten are simply taken around to your neighbour who may swap some of your apples for their carrots. Interestingly, my parents often comment on the overabundance of foods, and due to this fact, many homes have a small stall on the side of their properties with extra produce available for the taking - for FREE. Does anyone want to move? Regards, Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my first opportunity to comment here on Elha Ablaze, and I was interested to read your perspective on the food industry in Australia. It cannot be denied, we as a nation are overweight and ill informed, and yet the sun tanned, fit, healthy (?) surfer image still remains a recognisable image of Australia for the rest of the world. (Next to the Golden Arches &#8211; I bet I dont even need to explain that one). I found your comment on the &#8217;soy&#8217; industry particularly enthralling mainly because I have worked in a coffee shop and cannot help but laugh as lean, nutrionless rich bastards ordered their &#8217;soy latte&#8217; and read articles in Cosmopolitan magazine or some such rubbish with actual titles such as &#8216;50 reasons to drink soy&#8217; &#8211; most of them advocating how COOL it is to drink soy as opposed to actually giving any concrete facts about the substance. The other issue that surrounds the growing of your own foods is housing, and city dwellers in tiny, cramped &#8217;studio apartments&#8217; (another name for shoebox) will agree. I would like to mention that there is no excuse for at least growing your own herbs, and then seeking out organic produce. My parents live in Tasmania and have their own vegetable patches. Their neighbours do the same, and any extras unable to be eaten are simply taken around to your neighbour who may swap some of your apples for their carrots. Interestingly, my parents often comment on the overabundance of foods, and due to this fact, many homes have a small stall on the side of their properties with extra produce available for the taking &#8211; for FREE. Does anyone want to move? Regards, Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truly sad notion of all this can be seen clearly in agricultural communities such as the one I live in. I&#039;m in the heart of the Midwest, surrounded by rolling fields of corn and beans, and dwindling grass fed Cow fields. You would think that makes good organic food easier to get your hands on. Think again. I know one farmer in the area quite well, and he does all his own butchering for his meat market (The best damn steaks ...period!). He just gained five contracts with different restaurants in New York City. They want good traditional raised beef. The restaurants told him these steaks are sold at 5 times the price of the industrial farm versions. Wow! Shouldn&#039;t this be the other way around?

A great read as always, Henry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truly sad notion of all this can be seen clearly in agricultural communities such as the one I live in. I&#8217;m in the heart of the Midwest, surrounded by rolling fields of corn and beans, and dwindling grass fed Cow fields. You would think that makes good organic food easier to get your hands on. Think again. I know one farmer in the area quite well, and he does all his own butchering for his meat market (The best damn steaks &#8230;period!). He just gained five contracts with different restaurants in New York City. They want good traditional raised beef. The restaurants told him these steaks are sold at 5 times the price of the industrial farm versions. Wow! Shouldn&#8217;t this be the other way around?</p>
<p>A great read as always, Henry!</p>
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		<title>By: Volksfreund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Volksfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timely advice indeed for city dwellers! I start to wonder what types of cooking oils that restaurants in Australia are using as I eat out too often. Studies are done in China and Taiwan about the mutagenicity or carcinogenicity of vegetable cooking oils - apparently there is a high incidence of lung cancer among Chinese women who prepare food daily in kitchen and breathe in the fumes from those cooking oils, and bladder cancer among cooks who work in Chinese restaurants. The journal Food and Chemical Toxicology is full of thought-provoking scientific data about the relation between food and death. Eating therefore must go together with wisdom, otherwise one eats only to die sooner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timely advice indeed for city dwellers! I start to wonder what types of cooking oils that restaurants in Australia are using as I eat out too often. Studies are done in China and Taiwan about the mutagenicity or carcinogenicity of vegetable cooking oils &#8211; apparently there is a high incidence of lung cancer among Chinese women who prepare food daily in kitchen and breathe in the fumes from those cooking oils, and bladder cancer among cooks who work in Chinese restaurants. The journal Food and Chemical Toxicology is full of thought-provoking scientific data about the relation between food and death. Eating therefore must go together with wisdom, otherwise one eats only to die sooner!</p>
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