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		<title>By: Volksfreund</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/06/why-be-a-chaos-heathen/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Volksfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

A sensitive appreciation of &quot;other&quot; gods helps us understand our own relation to &quot;our&quot; and &quot;their&quot; gods. Personally I don&#039;t feel I own any of them - drawn to one, not the other, but trying my best not to appropriate any. It is like inviting a woman to a meal, for example - she may say yes or turn it down. I can always try again!

I think the cultural context of a god can help us understand him better, and this is why I enjoy studying folklore and languages.

Like you I am not drawn to the &quot;idol worship&quot; of mass movements. I am more interested in getting to know a god through study and introspection, as well as talking to people who sincerely follow that god, say Odin.

What will be the building of a temple of Odin be like in a German city like Berlin?

All the best with your journeying forth and within!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>A sensitive appreciation of &#8220;other&#8221; gods helps us understand our own relation to &#8220;our&#8221; and &#8220;their&#8221; gods. Personally I don&#8217;t feel I own any of them &#8211; drawn to one, not the other, but trying my best not to appropriate any. It is like inviting a woman to a meal, for example &#8211; she may say yes or turn it down. I can always try again!</p>
<p>I think the cultural context of a god can help us understand him better, and this is why I enjoy studying folklore and languages.</p>
<p>Like you I am not drawn to the &#8220;idol worship&#8221; of mass movements. I am more interested in getting to know a god through study and introspection, as well as talking to people who sincerely follow that god, say Odin.</p>
<p>What will be the building of a temple of Odin be like in a German city like Berlin?</p>
<p>All the best with your journeying forth and within!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Volksfreund.

There is a lot in so-called Hinduism (a category &#039;invented&#039; by English colonialists) that is great, wise &amp; admirable. I have especially an interest in LHP Tantra &amp; Advaita Vedanta. However, the Hindus I met were rather &#039;conservative&#039;, if not even prude. I never asked them, but I didn&#039;t have the impression they would have liked the idea that I did Ganesha invocations for chaos magick.

I know that they are buliding a huge Ganesha Temple in Berlin, but also here I had the clear impression that these Hindus believe in Ganesha as a reality (like Kristjans believe in Christ) and I would feel rather out of place, when these guys worship their God(s). If I may be absolut honest: When I read about these Ganesha worshippers from Berlin I felt very strange. I had the strange feeling (not the rational thought) that these are THEIR Gods, not mine. This doesn&#039;t mean that I cannot &#039;work with&#039; Ganesha in a chaos magickal way, but somehow it felt &#039;wrong&#039;. I had the impression that I just &#039;use&#039; this God for my own ends, rather than feel real appraisal for Him. This has been already a critique that ex-chaos magician Phil Hine stated in an interview. However, I&#039;m not a purist &amp; I would work with Ganesha again, if I considered it &#039;necessary&#039;. I was thinking recently about Freyr after Henry has written about Him some time ago. I believe that Freyr can achieve the missions (at least the worldly ones) that Ganesha is the patron of.

Weird topic, isn&#039;t it? I have to think about all that...

Thanks, Volksfreund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Volksfreund.</p>
<p>There is a lot in so-called Hinduism (a category &#8216;invented&#8217; by English colonialists) that is great, wise &amp; admirable. I have especially an interest in LHP Tantra &amp; Advaita Vedanta. However, the Hindus I met were rather &#8216;conservative&#8217;, if not even prude. I never asked them, but I didn&#8217;t have the impression they would have liked the idea that I did Ganesha invocations for chaos magick.</p>
<p>I know that they are buliding a huge Ganesha Temple in Berlin, but also here I had the clear impression that these Hindus believe in Ganesha as a reality (like Kristjans believe in Christ) and I would feel rather out of place, when these guys worship their God(s). If I may be absolut honest: When I read about these Ganesha worshippers from Berlin I felt very strange. I had the strange feeling (not the rational thought) that these are THEIR Gods, not mine. This doesn&#8217;t mean that I cannot &#8216;work with&#8217; Ganesha in a chaos magickal way, but somehow it felt &#8216;wrong&#8217;. I had the impression that I just &#8216;use&#8217; this God for my own ends, rather than feel real appraisal for Him. This has been already a critique that ex-chaos magician Phil Hine stated in an interview. However, I&#8217;m not a purist &amp; I would work with Ganesha again, if I considered it &#8216;necessary&#8217;. I was thinking recently about Freyr after Henry has written about Him some time ago. I believe that Freyr can achieve the missions (at least the worldly ones) that Ganesha is the patron of.</p>
<p>Weird topic, isn&#8217;t it? I have to think about all that&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, Volksfreund.</p>
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		<title>By: Volksfreund</title>
		<link>http://www.elhazablaze.com/2009/06/why-be-a-chaos-heathen/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Volksfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Developing Asatru somewhat along the lines of Hinduism - the world&#039;s oldest religion and the third largest after Christianity and Islam - might be a fruitful thing. Hinduism has no central authority and no concept of orthodoxy, yet there are core teachings that all Hindus more or less agree with. As an ancestral religion, Hinduism is something that one is born into. However, Hindus embrace both ancient tradition and modern innovation - the latter includes acceptance of those of non-Indian birth through either confession of faith or marriage. Western Hindus are not hard to find in Australia; Germany is probably the same. Perhaps you can ask them about worship of Hindu gods without going through a full-scale conversion? Is there at least one Hindu temple in Berlin? In Sydney we have one that welcomes visitors, and my university regularly organises excursions for some intercultural learning and fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developing Asatru somewhat along the lines of Hinduism &#8211; the world&#8217;s oldest religion and the third largest after Christianity and Islam &#8211; might be a fruitful thing. Hinduism has no central authority and no concept of orthodoxy, yet there are core teachings that all Hindus more or less agree with. As an ancestral religion, Hinduism is something that one is born into. However, Hindus embrace both ancient tradition and modern innovation &#8211; the latter includes acceptance of those of non-Indian birth through either confession of faith or marriage. Western Hindus are not hard to find in Australia; Germany is probably the same. Perhaps you can ask them about worship of Hindu gods without going through a full-scale conversion? Is there at least one Hindu temple in Berlin? In Sydney we have one that welcomes visitors, and my university regularly organises excursions for some intercultural learning and fun.</p>
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